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=== Origin of ingredients ===
 
=== Origin of ingredients ===

Revision as of 14:43, 28 August 2015

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Purpose

The purpose of this project is the:

  • Creating a map of breweries;
  • Developing the taxonomy;
  • Solving inconsistencies;

Instructions

  • Complete brewery address - add the complete brewery address as Brewery Name, Streetname, Postal Code, City, Region, Country

Fields

Each product that is entered into Open Food Facts has a set of fields. What should be entered in these field is not always clear and ambigious. In order to limit this confusion the best practice is listed here. The principle is that only information available on the labels, bottle and capsule might be used. Use the language selected on the OFF Edit Product page. If you use another language to enter fiels, precede it with a lanuage specifier. Thus on the french edit page we would enter en:Wheat Beer.

Product name

This is the name used on the main label. Often this is the same as the brand, so an extra specification is needed. For instance for (see product 5410228158424 m) the main name is Hoegaarden, but below is specified it concerns Wit - Blanche;

Common name

There is some confusion what to enter here. The best is to enter the product category found above/in the ingredient list. On the backlabel of (see product 5410228158424 m), it specifies Wheat Beer.

Quantity

The contents of the bottle, often in cl. Not much confusion.

Packaging

What is entered here is not always clear. It can be the elements of the productpackage and the make of these elements. If both are entered, it should be clear which element goed with which make. Look also at the bottle itself. In order to reduce the confusion we can do:

  • Bottle:green glass / Bottle:brown glass / Bottle:transparant glass. and sometimes even more detailed Bottle:brown glass:GL 72 (see product 5410228158424 m);
  • Capsule:metal;
  • Box:paper

Brands

This is usually found on the main label. One can also add the owner of the brand. For instance for (see product 5410228158424 m) this would be InBev Belgium;

Categories

Labels, certifications, awards

Many icons can be found the label. It is not always clear what the name for the icon is that one should use. A listing of labels that have been found:

  • Green dot logo.88x90.png Green dot
  • Tidyman wastebasket.70x90.png Tidyman wastebasket
  • Tidyman-glass-recycling.90x90.png Tidyman recycle
  • Glasbak.89x90.png Glasbak
  • GL-72.90x90.png GL 72
  • No-car.90x90.jpgNo driving
  • Zero alcool pendant la grossesse.png Not advised for pregnant women
  • AB.64x90.png AB
  • Bio-europeen.135x90.png European organic
  • PantA.87x90.png Pant A

Origin of ingredients

Manufacturing or processing places

This would be the address of the brewery.

EMB code

Only enter the EMB-code, such as EMB 29293G for (see product 3760010140017 3760010140017 m);

Link to product page on the official site of the producer

This can be found on the label nowadays, although it does more than often point to the producer site. Just enter it.

Best before date

Enter this, so any change in labeling and/or packaging can be tracked. If you can not find it on the label, check out the bottle itself.

City, state and country where purchased

Note that this NON-productlabel information. Just enter where you have bought it.

Stores

Add the store name(s) where you bought the product.

Countries where sold =

This is the same as the purchase country? We could add the countries/languages seen on the label.

Ingredients list

This can be found on the label. Sometimes it is hidden in the text, so read everything.

Traces

Allergy ingredients are specified separately as "contains" for instance.

Nutrition Facts Not specified

Leave this unchecked, as the alcohol percentage is a nutrition fact and always found on the label.

Serving size

Usually this is the same as the bottle size (25 or 33cl);

Nutrition Facts

Add the alchol percentage here, the other facts are not often found.

Observations

While entering the beers, we make various observations and conclusions, which are nice to keep; List them in this section.

Nutritional values

The nutritional values are rarely found on beers. Exceptions are:

Discussion

Non label information

In order to complete a brewery map, information not found on the label must be added. This could be indicated by the prefix added:

Reinheitsgebot

Beers in Germany can only be called beers if the adhere to the Reinheitsgebot, i.e. beer ingredients can only contain water, malt and hops. Thus a product such as Lammsbrau is not labeled as beer, whereas in other countries it is.

I am definitely no professional on the topic (nor a lawyer), but I believe that this no necessarily more true. See the following excerpt from the German Wikipedia:

Was als Bier bezeichnet werden darf, regelt die Bierverordnung (BierV) von 2005. Demnach ist die Einhaltung der im Vorläufigen Biergesetz normierten Herstellungsvorschriften maßgeblich. Besonders strenge Vorschriften gelten nur noch für die untergärige Bierherstellung in Deutschland für den deutschen Markt. Hersteller von importiertem Bier sind aufgrund des nach dem Urteil des Europäischen Gerichtshofes von 1987 angepassten deutschen Rechts nicht an diese Vorschriften gebunden; auch deutsche Brauereien können davon abweichen, wenn sie untergäriges Bier für den Export produzieren, oder für „besondere Biere“ eine Ausnahmegenehmigung erhalten.

And the following from the English Wikipedia:

Thus, German breweries continue to comply with the Biergesetz, and often claim compliance with the Reinheitsgebot even when it is patently incorrect (for example, for Wheat beer which were prohibited by the Reinheitsgebot). Thus the Reinheitsgebot has become a valuable marketing tool. Until superseded by a change in EU law, the Reinheitsgebot was also enforced in Greece from the early 19th century due to a law by the first Greek king, Otto (originally a Bavarian prince) that had remained in effect for over a hundred years. The law drew criticism from foreign brewers as a form of protectionism that allowed Germany to prohibit beers from Belgium and England which contained sugars, grains such as Corn and Rice, and clarification and fining agents.

--hangy (talk) 16:11, 23 August 2015 (CEST)

OK, then the question is whether we re-label an alcoholic beverage as beer, when the ingredients are right, but it is not called as such on the productlabel (malt, hops). --Aleene (talk) 19:48, 23 August 2015 (CEST)

Address markup.

We could add markup to addresses. Add brewery:, street: postalcode:, city: region/province:, city:, country: before each element.

Sixpack and single bottles

Often beer is sold in a sixpack (or more). What to do with single bottles that came from such a sixpack. Often(?) these bottles do not have a barcode, but might contain interesting information. So do we add these bottles as products without a barcode?

Categories

The categories taxonomy used for beer is:
Beverages
- Alcoholic beverages : Beverages with ingredient alcohol as found on the label
-- Beers (ingredients branch) : Alcoholic beverages based on hops? malt?
--- Amber beers : intermediate colour beers (fr:Bières ambrées)
--- Lager : light coloured beer

-- Origin (brewery country branch) {not specific to beer}
--- Belgian beers : beers with the brewery in Belgium (fr:Bières belges)
--- French beers : beers with the brewery in France (fr:bières françaises)

-- Artisan Products (process branch) - indicates the scale? of the manufacturing {not specific to beer} )
--- Artisan Beverage Products


Artisan Alcoholic Beverage Products (alcool artisanaux)


Craft Beer : beers produced on a small scale

Search Queries

Some search queries that can be done related to beer:

  • Find all "biere" in the world [410 results @ 24/8/15] (query);
  • Find all "bier" in the world [33 results @ 24/8/15] (query);
  • Find all "beer" in the world [242 results @ 24/8/15] (query);
  • Find all biere with the label "en:Not advised for pregnant women" query;
  • Find all biere with the packaging code "en:Green Dot" query;
  • All "biere" with a geographic location [17 results @ 24/8/15] (query);
  • Alcohol distribution of "biere" [343 results @ 24/8/15] (query);

To Do's

  • Clean up existing beers
  • How can we make a beer/biere/bier search with all beers entered in all languages?
  • Recycling instructions now appear in the labels field and not the packaging field. Needs to be corrected.
  • In which field should the brewer be added? EMB code field is best, as it might be added to the geographic search results.

The EMB field is one of the most misused. I think it should ONLY be used for EMB codes and European sanitary stamps… --Tacite (talk) 20:44, 23 August 2015 (CEST)