Alcohol/Beers

Back to Main Page

Purpose

The purpose of this project is the:

• Creating a map of breweries;
• Developing the taxonomy;
• Solving inconsistencies;

Instructions

• Complete brewery address - add the complete brewery address as Brewery Name, Streetname, Postal Code, City, Region, Country

Observations

While entering the beers, we make various observations and conclusions, which are nice to keep; List them in this section.

Nutritional values

The nutritional values are rarely found on beers. Exceptions are:

• Guiness Special Export with a complete list 54004207;

Discussion

Non label information

In order to complete a brewery map, information not found on the label must be added. This could be indicated by the prefix added:

Reinheitsgebot

Beers in Germany can only be called beers if the adhere to the Reinheitsgebot, i.e. beer ingredients can only contain water, malt and hops. Thus a product such as Lammsbrau is not labeled as beer, whereas in other countries it is.

I am definitely no professional on the topic (nor a lawyer), but I believe that this no necessarily more true. See the following excerpt from the German Wikipedia:

Was als Bier bezeichnet werden darf, regelt die Bierverordnung (BierV) von 2005. Demnach ist die Einhaltung der im Vorläufigen Biergesetz normierten Herstellungsvorschriften maßgeblich. Besonders strenge Vorschriften gelten nur noch für die untergärige Bierherstellung in Deutschland für den deutschen Markt. Hersteller von importiertem Bier sind aufgrund des nach dem Urteil des Europäischen Gerichtshofes von 1987 angepassten deutschen Rechts nicht an diese Vorschriften gebunden; auch deutsche Brauereien können davon abweichen, wenn sie untergäriges Bier für den Export produzieren, oder für „besondere Biere“ eine Ausnahmegenehmigung erhalten.

And the following from the English Wikipedia:

Thus, German breweries continue to comply with the Biergesetz, and often claim compliance with the Reinheitsgebot even when it is patently incorrect (for example, for Wheat beer which were prohibited by the Reinheitsgebot). Thus the Reinheitsgebot has become a valuable marketing tool. Until superseded by a change in EU law, the Reinheitsgebot was also enforced in Greece from the early 19th century due to a law by the first Greek king, Otto (originally a Bavarian prince) that had remained in effect for over a hundred years. The law drew criticism from foreign brewers as a form of protectionism that allowed Germany to prohibit beers from Belgium and England which contained sugars, grains such as Corn and Rice, and clarification and fining agents.

--hangy (talk) 16:11, 23 August 2015 (CEST)

OK, then the question is whether we re-label an alcoholic beverage as beer, when the ingredients are right, but it is not called as such on the productlabel (malt, hops). --Aleene (talk) 19:48, 23 August 2015 (CEST)

Address markup.

We could add markup to addresses. Add brewery:, street: postalcode:, city: region/province:, city:, country: before each element.

Categories

The categories taxonomy used for beer is:
Beverages
- Alcoholic beverages : Beverages with ingredient alcohol as found on the label
-- Beers (ingredients branch) : Alcoholic beverages based on hops? malt?
--- Amber beers : intermediate colour beers (fr:Bières ambrées)
--- Lager : light coloured beer

-- Origin (brewery country branch) {not specific to beer}
--- Belgian beers : beers with the brewery in Belgium (fr:Bières belges)
--- French beers : beers with the brewery in France (fr:bières françaises)

-- Artisan Products (process branch) - indicates the scale? of the manufacturing {not specific to beer} )
--- Artisan Beverage Products

---

Artisan Alcoholic Beverage Products (alcool artisanaux)

---

Craft Beer : beers produced on a small scale

Search Queries

Some search queries that can be done related to beer:

• Find all "biere" in the world [410 results @ 24/8/15] (query);
• Find all "bier" in the world [33 results @ 24/8/15] (query);
• Find all "beer" in the world [242 results @ 24/8/15] (query);
• Find all biere with the label "en:Not advised for pregnant women" query;
• Find all biere with the packaging code "en:Green Dot" query;
• All "biere" with a geographic location [22 results @ 24/8/15] (query);
• Alcohol distribution of "biere" [343 results @ 24/8/15] (query);

To Do's

• Clean up existing beers
• How can we make a beer/biere/bier search with all beers entered in all languages?
• Recycling instructions now appear in the labels field and not the packaging field. Needs to be corrected.
• In which field should the brewer be added? EMB code field is best, as it might be added to the geographic search results.

The EMB field is one of the most misused. I think it should ONLY be used for EMB codes and European sanitary stamps… --Tacite (talk) 20:44, 23 August 2015 (CEST)